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Are maintain of books of accounts compulsory u/s 44aa?

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18 March 2015 Hi to all,
A client have income from school & coaching. Gross receipt from them during FY 13-14 amounting Rs: 715000/- I want to know whether maintenance of books of Accounts compulsory u/s 44AA or not. However expenses made during same period is Rs: 515000. here net receipt comes Rs: 200000/-
Maintanence of books of accounts are compulsory on Gross receipt 715000/- or net receipt: 200000/-?????

18 March 2015 yes as per sec 44AA if gross income exceeds rs 120,000 then books of accounts are mandatory.

18 March 2015 Books of accounts to be maintained, either the income from business or profession exceeds Rs 120000 or the turnover or gross receipts exceed Rs 10 Lakhs in any one of the three years immediately preceding the previous year.
As the net receipt exceeds Rs 120000 books of accounts has to be maintained from next year.




19 March 2015 Tushan ji. Building for running school is hired on Rent of Rs 40000 p.m. Should I deduct tds u/s 194Ia?

19 March 2015 yes since the threshold limit under section 194I of rs 180,000 p.a. so in ur case it will attract tds.

19 March 2015 Tushan ji. If I deduct tds on rent of building. Would I have to face audit or not?

20 March 2015 audit doesn not depend on tds deduction but on the gross turnover or gross reciepts in previous year under sec 44AB

20 March 2015 Tushar is the person is not liable to deduct tds if he or she is not under audit




20 March 2015 Neha if you are not liable for audit, you need not to deduct tds though u crosses the limit

20 March 2015 Tushar & Ankit ji, Turover during FY 13-14 is only Rs: 715000/- where net receipt is Rs: 2 lac after adjusting expenses of Rs; 515000/- from school & coaching. I don't think audit is applicable where TDS is deductible or not? Audit is applicable where turnover is more than 1 crore from business & 25 lac from profession. isn't?

20 March 2015 thats what i m saying... tds and audit have only one link... that if you are under audit, then only u need to deduct tds... and if you arent liable for audit, u need not to deduct tds in that case....

20 March 2015 Conclusion:
since for fy 13-14 your turnover was below 1 crore the no tds is applicable for fy 14-15 as for 13-14 you were not liable to tax audit.




20 March 2015 thats what i asked you tushar ji hours back... but u didnt replied... and i found ur ans wrong.. so i asked to confirm it back...

anywz i hope neha you are clear regarding your doubts....

20 March 2015 I got confuse a bit but now its clear to me now. It means until my turnover cross the limit of Rs: 1 crore. I am not gonna face audit. But those who are not under audit will have to prepare report like Form 3CB or Form 3CD. Are these report required to me or not?

20 March 2015 i was bit busy in office with my seniors so couldnt respond to your reply..

anyways thank you ankit




20 March 2015 if tax audit is not applicable to you then no form 3cd etc is applicable to you.

20 March 2015 http://www.slideshare.net/guptarajin2002/3-cd-3cd

20 March 2015 Tushar ji. can I club income from School & coaching to my personal individual Pan & file income tax return. In this case which ITR would I have to file?

20 March 2015 firstly wat is the status of school regsitered as trust or wat under income tax act and u cannot file with same pan for school and individual itr as it is not sole proprietory business.

u need to obtain seperate pan for school also

20 March 2015 School is running under welfare society but not coaching. School's income is more than coaching. A pan is alloted in the name of society since 2011. but no ITR was filled on society, Now I want to club income from school & coaching to my person ITR & keep start filling ITR of society on nil.
kindly put ur comments.....

20 March 2015 if seperate pan is issued to school the income cant be clubbed with ur personal income and seperate itr needs to be filed in this case,

20 March 2015 Tushar ji, there is no seperate Pan for school as already mentioned school is running under welfare society but coaching is running freely. A pan is issued to society which return is not filled since 2011. In this can, Can I club income from both of them(school & Pan) to personal Pan or not? becoz there is not seperate Pan issued to School.....

20 March 2015 then such society needs to take schools income as thier icnome only but certianly u cannot club it with your personal income.

20 March 2015 Ok. Can I club coaching income to my personal ITR as coaching isn't running under society not it is registered.

20 March 2015 pls clearly state who is providing coaching , you have not mentioned and whoever is providing then wat abt his status under income tax act?

20 March 2015 me & my friend both are running school & coaching(from 1st to B.Com). we have decided to make a welfare society under which we run school & coaching & income from them is to be clubbed with society. that's why we had a pan for society however we got school run under society but coaching couldn't be done. That's why I was confused, whether to maintain books of accounts or not, when this was cleared by you. Now I need, either should I club income of coaching to my personal pan or not. That's it.

20 March 2015 now again a new twist u making evey reply..if ur friend is also providing tuition then have ull formed any prop firm or partnership firm if yes then it will be taxed acordingly if not then who recives the coaching amount and whether it is shared or wat..for clubbing all such details are required.

20 March 2015 School & coaching amount isn't shared between us. whole income is taken by my friend from school & coaching.

20 March 2015 then income is taxable in your friends hand

20 March 2015 Tushar ji, Are both the incomes taxable in my friends hand even school is running under society & Pan no of society is already alloted by ITD since 2011.

20 March 2015 earnings of school taxable in hands of society and of coaching in hands of your friend

20 March 2015 Thank you tushar ji for sparing your precious of time to resolve this...

20 March 2015 you are welcome neha..............

20 March 2015 you are welcome neha..............

20 March 2015 Tushar ji, one more question, what is the tax slab for society?

20 March 2015 http://www.charteredclub.com/income-tax-slabs/

you can get from this link



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