Independent Directors
Ashwin (PQRS) (32 Points)
28 June 2017The provisions restrict holding of 2% or more voting power for the individual and his relative but this particular case does not seem to be covered.
Ashwin (PQRS) (32 Points)
28 June 2017
Karan Batra
(Creator: TheProTalks)
(2325 Points)
Replied 28 June 2017
This question is on associates and not independent director, Here's the definition of associate company as per the companies Act.
ASSOCIATE COMPANY
Section 2 Subsection (6) “associate company”, in relation to another company, means a company in which that other company has a significant influence, but which is not a subsidiary company of the company having such influence and includes a joint venture company.
Explanation.—For the purposes of this clause, “significant influence” means control of at least twenty per cent. of total share capital, or of business decisions under an agreement.
Now as you should be getting it by now an associate is not just a company in who’s the concerned company holds more than 20% of share capital but also includes a company which is having influence over the latter’s decision making process under an agreement.
Thus in your case even if A company holds just 15% of the paid up capital of B ltd it might be also an associate if A ltd is having influence over the latter’s decision making process under an agreement.
Sudhir Todkar
(CS Professional)
(1021 Points)
Replied 29 June 2017
Ashwin
(PQRS)
(32 Points)
Replied 29 June 2017
Sudhir Todkar
(CS Professional)
(1021 Points)
Replied 29 June 2017
Ashwin
(PQRS)
(32 Points)
Replied 29 June 2017
Ashwin
(PQRS)
(32 Points)
Replied 29 June 2017
Sudhir Todkar
(CS Professional)
(1021 Points)
Replied 29 June 2017
Karan Batra
(Creator: TheProTalks)
(2325 Points)
Replied 30 June 2017
Hi Sudhir,
I am totally in agreement to your reasoning till when you said that the entire conclusion depends upon to check whether the entity is Associate or not. However, what I disagree with you is again to the point that associate is not only a company in which you have 20% or more of share capital but also but also includes a company which is having influence over the latter’s decision making process under an agreement.
Let me give you some reasons to this, practically even a < 5% stake has a Significant influence factor attached to it
Sudhir Todkar
(CS Professional)
(1021 Points)
Replied 30 June 2017
Karan Batra
(Creator: TheProTalks)
(2325 Points)
Replied 30 June 2017
Again Sudhir you are deviating what I want you to understand, Have I in any of my answers said that definition as per Accounting standards shall be only considered, Have I said that ASs shall override what is meant as per companies’ act, Have I only mentioned a reference to only ASs to support my answer. The answer to all such questions is no.
What I was trying to make you understand is the substance behind these definitions and not just the literal interpretation. The lawmaker or the person who has framed these standards or IASB on whose lines all our Institute works all in substance over form want to convey a much wider meaning of persons covered due to SI and not just a % stake can define it.
Still If you think otherwise that’s your wish. And Yes I know ASs can be deviated.
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