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DK (SERVICE) (116 Points)
Replied 17 December 2011

You name a scam , you will find the brain of CA in that.Namely SATYAM:FUDGING OF ACCOUNTS,MADHU KODA etc.So it is not that they have contributed to the nation building , a huge loss to exchequer ha been caused by Financial ACCOUNTANT(ca).But it is true that every body should not be painted with same brush.In Financial Accountant (CA) profession  reputed and ethical person are also there.Maalik Meharwan to GADHA PAHALWAN.So Our FInacial Accountant(CA) friend are pahalwan because GOvt .of India has given a statutory right for the Audit .So my dear friends, if ICAI is so generous and fearless, why are they are having one point agenda  to influence the MPs not to suport the name change.Perhaps they will threaten that if you will allow, we will disclose the amount of your black money we have converted in to white.Be generous dear.Jiyo or Jeene do.

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You talking about Zaher, see below some cases , our our dear CWA or CMA friends are using hatred words against ICAI or CA,

 

 

Re: ICWAI DEMANDS DROP “CHARTERED” FROM ICAI

Postby nandanisr on Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:23 pm

Dear CMA, 

Life is always cyclic. ICAI has reached it peak and ICWAI is near bottom. 
History is full of many example where in rise and decline of powers. 

Proud and dominance is difficult to sustain and kills. ICAI has to understand this. 

CAM need to be patient and react tact tactfully. 

Sometime in life, we feel that we have lost everything and as the time passes we realize that we were crying unnecessary. 

First steps may be 
Form an association of CMAs to file a PIL in supreme court for 
- Removing chartered word from ICAI
- Adding Management to ICWAI 
- Giving powers for ' Financial Audit' to ICWAI ( This is monopoly of ICAI and monopoly is always harmful and here it is very much harmful to the nation !, What's wrong in filing a petitions, at least it will open 'pandora box'
 
This decision needs to be quickly.....
nandanisr
 
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Re: ICWAI DEMANDS DROP “CHARTERED” FROM ICAI

Postby cmagururajan on Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:46 pm

Respected SSRK,

u r right. there were these observations. It is true. But it referred to MCA headed by Salman Khurshid (now promoted) as law minister. Now we have Moily then Law Minister. do u see the difference between a winner and a wounded one.

And the reasons why some are promoted and some are demoted.
Regards
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"Strategy is about stretching limited resources to fit ambitious aspirations."
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Prasad P (Chartered Accountant) (117 Points)
Replied 17 December 2011

People throw stone at the trees with more fruits. Its the natures truth... 

You can continue to throw. We are not worried about it. 

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KSB22 (Assitant Manager) (69 Points)
Replied 17 December 2011

I agree with Raj Kumar Sir, ICWAI should not have been created as statutory body in India too. Parhaps career of lakhs of student would not have been affected and all these 50000 members of ICWAI and 400000  studends would be CA/CA  students. We are all fighting because some people in the past who were against establishment of "Chartered accountant" gave birth to ICWAI and they left us to fight each others.  



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Mr DK,

Even if we already discussed same point so many tines , again repeating.

Sorry sir,

Now there is no question of threat for ICAI. See the case CA UK and CMA UK.

Total accounting and auditing profession is given to CA UK. Find the facts.

In 2011 May , CIMA withdrwa from CCBA , umbrella commtitte to regulate acounting,

CIMA says they are not concerned with any type of public practice. They are just promoting Managemnet acounting as MBA course.See their  chartre.

Then why ICWAI want double standard policy.

We are happy , our ICWAI goes global without any statutory function.

You all request GOI to hand over all acounting profession to ICWAI. IF GOCT or court decises in ICWAI, no body will be aginst ICWAI.

CA has earned enough money ( Reputation) in the world they can survive livehood just by intererst ( It is in the sense of earing status and fame and brand)




CA.AMAR MOHAPATRA (MANAGER-INDIRECT TAX) (665 Points)
Replied 17 December 2011

Originally posted by : Sanket




Originally posted by : AMAR MOHAPATRA






sanket.....no thanx for ur lecture (bhasan) .....there is no meaning for ur baseless argument ....







India is democratic country. If anyone does not like anything, they can use remote control to switch off or change the channel

The Profession of CA is a royal profession in India. ICAI is the second largest accounting body in the world.Many foriegn country demands Indian CA. There is a special place of Indian CA in accounting profession of world...........India is democratic country. If anyone does not like anything, they can use remote control to switch off or change the channel.
 

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Rashid,

Sab Kuchh Sahi hain,

But IF ICAI and ICWAI fight longer ,  ther will not any any solution. Glory of CA Institute can never be degraded by any one . AT the same time ICWAI should be grommed and developed . There is solution for any thinsg. Both Institutes are brother , it does not matter who is elder or youger. But area of operation should be kept in tact as per responsiblites.



(Guest)

 Name suggested by GOI has made diffrences between two profession.

Even disignation was ACMA or FCMA.

 



(Guest)

Arre ay,

ICWAI does only mean The Institute of Cost ans works Accountants of India? See another full form

ICWA Indian Council of World AffairsICWA

And It may be changed IICA or in any form agreed between both Institutes.


RG - A Helping Hand (Company Secretary) (13867 Points)
Replied 17 December 2011

Once again I urge you friends….please stop posting personal comments….All the professional bodies are doing well in India for its growth…and this is the real fact.

 

It’s all political drama by making controversial amendments….Please try and understand it’s like divide and Rule policy…

 

It is high time for all 3 professional bodies to come forward and reach an amicable solution.

 

What do you think by making adverse comments on each other we can change and damage the structure and reputation of any of the 3 professional bodies in India. No guys no…

 

Please try and understand It’s another controversial amendments by Govt.

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Dear Rashid,

ICWAI does only mean The Institute of Cost ans works Accountants of India? See another full form

ICWA Indian Council of World AffairsICWA

And It may be changed IICA or in any form agreed between both Institutes.

 

Even CA does not only mean Chartered Acounatsnts all over .



(Guest)

Dear ALl CWA,freind

I personally appolize to all MY CWA friends,may be i posted some topics kiding or jokes on cwa, it might have hurt you.

but it was just kiding , it comes only after seeing the hatred languases  by f CWA freinds against ICAI or CA.

But Again i want say there  should not be nay types fighting and hatred amongst our selves.


RG - A Helping Hand (Company Secretary) (13867 Points)
Replied 17 December 2011

Originally posted by : Raj Kumar Gupta
Dear ALl CWA,freind
I personally appolize to all MY CWA friends,may be i posted some topics kiding or jokes on cwa, it might have hurt you.
but it was just kiding , it comes only after seeing the hatred languases  by f CWA freinds against ICAI or CA.
But Again i want say there  should not be nay types fighting and hatred amongst our selves.


Thats the true spirit dear Gupta Ji...keep it up.


Sanket ( ACA, ACMA, CS) (Self-Employed) (72 Points)
Replied 17 December 2011

Originally posted by : AMAR MOHAPATRA




Originally posted by : Sanket









Originally posted by : AMAR MOHAPATRA






sanket.....no thanx for ur lecture (bhasan) .....there is no meaning for ur baseless argument ....







India is democratic country. If anyone does not like anything, they can use remote control to switch off or change the channel






The Profession of CA is a royal profession in India. ICAI is the second largest accounting body in the world.Many foriegn country demands Indian CA. There is a special place of Indian CA in accounting profession of world...........India is democratic country. If anyone does not like anything, they can use remote control to switch off or change the channel.
 

 

Ek Baat kahe, Mazaa nahin aaya ( say one thing , did not enjoy)
 




Nishi (CA Final Student) (190 Points)
Replied 17 December 2011

Originally posted by : Richank Garg

Whatever the reason may be but the word "Chartered" is the life of Chartered Accountant profession. There is no doubt about that and should remain attached with ICAI.


Totally agreed.....The word "Chartered" is the Soul of our institute.....



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