Priyanka Mahajan (CA Practice ) (404 Points)
19 August 2010
we incorporated a co. in 2003 and filed annual return of 1st yr only. now plz tell me if i want to file annual return and balance sheets of all years till date, then hw much penalty we will have to pay
plz reply soon
Jyoti Aggarwal
(COMPANY SECRETARY)
(336 Points)
Replied 19 August 2010
If you filed all the forms till 31st august then you have to pay normal fee + 25% of additional fee under the scheme called CLSS.
it means you are getting 75% discount on additional fee.
But if you filed after 31st Aug then you have to pay normal fee + Additional fee.Here is no discount is available.
So I suggest you to file all your pending forms on or before 31st August to get the benfit of the scheme
Neha Gupta
(PCS)
(377 Points)
Replied 19 August 2010
Dear this is the Schedule of Normal ROC fees this will help u in calculation
Schedule of payments to ROC
|
Authorized
Capital |
Reg.
fees |
Total |
|
1 |
2 |
|
|
Upto 1, 00,000 |
4000 + 800 |
4800 |
|
2, 00,000 |
7000 + 800 |
7800 |
|
3, 00,000 |
10000 + 800 |
10800 |
|
4, 00,000 |
13,000 + 800 |
13800 |
|
5, 00,000 |
16,000 + 1200 |
17200 |
|
10, 00,000 |
26,000 + 1200 |
27200 |
|
15, 00,000 |
36,000 + 1200 |
37200 |
|
20, 00,000 |
46,000 + 1200 |
47200 |
|
25, 00,000 |
56,000 + 2000 |
58000 |
|
30, 00,000 |
66,000 + 2000 |
68000 |
|
35, 00,000 |
76,000 + 2000 |
78000 |
|
40, 00,000 |
86,000 + 2000 |
88000 |
|
45, 00,000 |
96,000 + 2000 |
98000 |
|
50, 00,000 |
1, 06,000 + 2000 |
108000 |
|
55, 00,000 |
1, 11,000 + 2000 |
113000 |
|
60, 00,000 |
1, 16,000 + 2000 |
118000 |
|
75, 00,000 |
1, 31,000 + 2000 |
133000 |
|
1,00,00,000 |
1,56,000 + 2000 |
158000 |
Late Filing fees of documents with ROC
|
Late Period |
Fees |
|
1 Month |
1+1 |
|
1 Month to 3 Months |
1+2 |
|
3 Months to 6 Months |
1+4 =5 |
|
6 Months to 1 Year |
1+6 =7 |
|
1Year to 2Years |
1+8 =9 |
|
Above 2 Years |
1+9 =10 |
|
|
|
Neha Gupta
(PCS)
(377 Points)
Replied 19 August 2010
the first schedule is for incorporation of Company
and second table is for late filing of Documents with ROC
Priyanka Mahajan
(CA Practice )
(404 Points)
Replied 20 August 2010
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thanks mam bt did not get the second table. may u pls explain
Originally posted by : PCS Neha Gupta |
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the first schedule is for incorporation of Company and second table is for late filing of Documents with ROC |
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Manish
(accountant)
(21 Points)
Replied 23 August 2010
if any company not file his annual return for A.Y. 2007-08 to A.Y. 2009-10. what is the penality charged
Shoeb
(Director)
(26 Points)
Replied 03 September 2010
We have incorporated one company in 1999-2000 and filed one ROC return for year ending March 2001. Due to bad debt and some fraudulent transaction the company suffered losses and in 2004 we halted its operation. We had not filed ROC return just after first year. We have now received notice in this regard from ROC, asking to explain why further action not to be taken against us under:
sec 210/ sec 168 / sec 210 (5) / sec 220 (3) sec 159 / 160 / 166 / sec 611 / 621A / sec 51
Please help me out in this as this company is no more in existance for last six years. Are we entitle to pay some penalty, if so how much and how it can be calculated. And also do let us know is there any option for paying returns and penalty for the years the company was operational i.e. upto 2004 or we have to pay penalty till 2009.
Highly appreciate your prompt helpful response in this regard.
Best Regards
Shoeb Siddiqui
Ajay Mishra
(Company Secretary)
(74332 Points)
Replied 03 September 2010
Dear Friend
The Payment of ROC fee will be decided as per schedule X of the Companies Act, 1956. Please read schedule X and pay fee accordingly.
Regards
Shoeb
(Director)
(26 Points)
Replied 03 September 2010
Thanks Ajay,
I have gone through the schedule X of the Companies Act, 1956 where I can figure out the fee slabs. My question is as our company has stopped its operations in 2004, do we need to pay upto 2004 or do we need to pay till 2009 as per notice served. Please note last AGM was held in Feb 2004. And our working capital never gone passed 100,000 with three directors as share holders
Please advise.
Best Regards
Neha Gupta
(PCS)
(377 Points)
Replied 04 September 2010
Dear Priyanka ji..
In Second Table of ROC fees 1+1 means first one is for normal fees and second 1 is extra penalty of the same amount if u file the form within 1 month from the last / due date of filing any form/ document as provided by companies law. It means fees will be twice.
1+2 means if u file any form with in the period between one to three months, and this period begins after the expiry of above said one month in which the fees is twice, then fees will be three times and so on..........
I will explain it to u with help of one an example.....
Assume as per schedule X of Companies act, 1956 the filing fees of Form 23AC & ACA is Rs.500.AS we all know that B/S. is filed with in 30 days of AGM and let us assume AGM date is 30th September.
then normal fees by 30th October is Rs. 500
1+1 by end of November it will be twice so Rs. 1000 and So on…..
“It means if form is late by 1 month fees will by twice and if late by not more then 3 months then fees will be 3 times and further if it is late by 3 to 6 months the fees will be 5 times and so on…”
Neha Gupta
(PCS)
(377 Points)
Replied 04 September 2010
In my opinion Shoeb Sir,
If the status of the Company is active on MCA Site and even though its not operational u are bound to made filing untill you have applied either for winding up or Defunct of the Company...as per the provisions of the Companies Act, 1956.
Even my clients have received these kinds of notices for there Companies too and facing same problem as u r facing . So for them I have prepared a Letter in which try to convince ROC that in true sense Companies are not operational from last 3-4 years.
But I guess we lost a best opportunity for applying for the Defunct for these kinds companies under EES, 2010.
Neha Gupta
(PCS)
(377 Points)
Replied 04 September 2010
In my opinion Shoeb Sir,
If the status of the Company is active on MCA Site and even though its not operational u are bound to made filing untill you have applied either for winding up or Defunct of the Company...as per the provisions of the Companies Act, 1956.
Even my clients have received these kinds of notices for there Companies too and facing same problem as u r facing . So for them I have prepared a Letter in which try to convince ROC that in true sense Companies are not operational from last 3-4 years.
But I guess we lost a best opportunity for applying for the Defunct for these kinds of Companies under EES, 2010.
Shoeb
(Director)
(26 Points)
Replied 04 September 2010
Dear Neha,
what is the address of MCA site where we can see the status of our company.
Secondly could you please help us in preparing letter to ROC (as you had mentioned) explaining in true sense Companies are not operational
Best Regards
Shoeb
palak
(cs)
(385 Points)
Replied 05 September 2010
TRULY SAID BY NEHA JI....
IN MCA SITE IF CO. MASTER DATA SHOWING UR COMPANY THAN U HVE TO FILE ALL FORMS WITH ROC....
IN MCA SITE THERE IS LIST OF VANISHING COMPANIES...U CAN GO THROUGH THIS ONE ALSO...
Shoeb
(Director)
(26 Points)
Replied 06 September 2010
I have gone through MCA site but unable fo find my company's name in any of the list, not even in the list of vanishing companies. It has following catagories where list is given:
Nidhi Companies
Vanishing Companies
Section 25 Comapnies
Chit fund Companies
NBFC Companies
Plantation Companies
IEPF
Can you please guide me where I can find the master list in the site
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